WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:21.400 Today I want to talk about how we can learn policy lessons from international comparisons. 00:00:21.400 --> 00:00:26.560 As researchers, as policymakers, as educational actors, we're engaged much more in international 00:00:26.560 --> 00:00:28.720 activities than we used to. 00:00:28.720 --> 00:00:30.680 And certainly as a researcher, I'm very aware that 00:00:30.680 --> 00:00:33.160 so much research is carried out in an international context. 00:00:33.160 --> 00:00:34.200 And so much of this research 00:00:34.207 --> 00:00:39.107 to inform policy, but I'm not sure that we're always very explicit about what kinds of lessons 00:00:39.107 --> 00:00:43.527 we should be drawing, what the approach is to drawing lessons. I want to suggest that actually 00:00:43.527 --> 00:00:50.787 learning from comparisons involves a somewhat broader concept of policy learning. Policy 00:00:50.787 --> 00:00:55.387 borrowing might be part of it, but we need to think more broadly in terms of policy learning, 00:00:55.607 --> 00:01:03.267 not just taking what they've got and putting it in here, but using the examination of their 00:01:03.267 --> 00:01:08.407 experience as a way of learning and learning things or concepts 00:01:08.414 --> 00:01:10.874 or ideas that can be applied here. 00:01:10.874 --> 00:01:15.174 A lot of countries are introducing frameworks because in one way or another they don't think 00:01:15.174 --> 00:01:20.374 their education and training systems are meeting the requirements of society and often particularly 00:01:20.374 --> 00:01:22.174 the needs of the labour market. 00:01:22.174 --> 00:01:25.954 So they're introducing frameworks in the hope that this will make the education and 00:01:25.954 --> 00:01:31.834 training system more transparent and that this will allow employers and others to understand 00:01:31.834 --> 00:01:35.974 what education is about and more clearly to specify what they're expecting education 00:01:35.974 --> 00:01:37.414 and training to achieve. 00:01:37.414 --> 00:01:42.614 If you look at NQFs across the world, often they look quite similar. 00:01:42.621 --> 00:01:49.421 represent them by sort of grids which show you the different levels of learning, different 00:01:49.421 --> 00:01:55.941 levels of qualification and then characterisations of the learning outcomes associated with each. 00:01:55.941 --> 00:02:00.921 Sometimes the grid would identify fields of study and all types of qualification. 00:02:00.921 --> 00:02:07.101 Second point is that those country differences persist despite what you might call global 00:02:07.101 --> 00:02:11.901 pressures which in theory are affecting all countries in a similar way and you might have 00:02:11.901 --> 00:02:16.821 expected to cause a degree of convergence in things like transition 00:02:16.827 --> 00:02:18.827 transitions between education and work. 00:02:18.827 --> 00:02:25.827 And the concept of transition systems tries to explain those differences in terms of the 00:02:25.827 --> 00:02:28.827 institutional structures within each country, the education and training systems, labour 00:02:28.827 --> 00:02:33.827 markets and so forth, which create different logics within the country. 00:02:33.827 --> 00:02:36.827 Things work differently in different countries. 00:02:36.827 --> 00:02:40.827 I think the main thing is that policymakers need to learn, need to use comparisons with 00:02:40.827 --> 00:02:43.827 other countries to learn rather than to borrow. 00:02:43.827 --> 00:02:49.247 they need to use those comparisons to identify factors which are interesting, which are important, 00:02:49.247 --> 00:02:51.027 to identify, for example, 00:02:51.034 --> 00:02:55.914 the way in which different systems work, to see what dimensions of differences between countries 00:02:55.914 --> 00:02:59.914 seem to explain the way in which different countries operate, 00:02:59.914 --> 00:03:05.274 and then use that knowledge not to try to identify specific policies that they can introduce in their own countries, 00:03:05.274 --> 00:03:08.994 but rather to identify models, conceptual frameworks, ideal types, 00:03:08.994 --> 00:03:13.234 that will help them to learn, to help them to think about, to analyse their own countries, 00:03:13.234 --> 00:03:15.634 and to develop policies that are specific to their own countries. 00:03:21.034 --> 00:03:23.094 you